I'd be more impressed if KL had got his shirt dirty whilst here. Senior players need to take a lead as well and simply don't.

Yeah, Kenny only managed to bring our current shirt sponsor to the table. Who does he think he is? :-D

Yeah, and what about that massive wage structure the media reported he was pocketing too! ;o) Tsk! Tsk!

To be fair with regards to getting shirts dirty. I seem to recall, as others may do, Kenny lying prone on the Stradley Park turf in the European Cup game after clashing heads with Dave Hodges, he was then sidelined for a big part of that Celtic League season because of that injury.

I agree with senior players standing up and being counted though.

why do we always come to blows...my highland brave. is that an indian mel gibson??!!?any way I think you'll find kenny played the next league game and was then dropped. not quite as romantic as the picture you painted but none the less. the truth.

I think you're mistaken Mark - Kenny missed three games after the head clash at Stradey Park.

My mistake.. man enough to admit it. is 3 games classed as "being sideline for the best part of the celtic league season". 1/10 of all fixtures that year? the guy was a waste of money. great he got a sponsor in for the jersey for 1/4 of what edinburgh got. what a great business man "at least he got a sponsor" will be the cry.... only coz someone else was at the pub instead of doing there job. What did he do when he was a senior player? the problems with the coaches haven't just started this year.!

Ok Marky boy...

You asked what he did as a senior player. As a senior do you mean with Glasgow Warriors or does that include the final few years at London Wasps too?

Anyway, in one season with Glasgow Warriors he played 15 Celtic League games, scoring 5 tries. In the European Cup he played 5 games.

Part of his employment when he was signed by the SRU for Glasgow Warriors was to help out on the sponsorship front.

So in helping to get a main sponsor for Glasgow Warriors when no one else could at the time, valuable money that was brought into the team. He also brought sponsorship deals and valuable income for the national side at Murrayfield so yes he did his job on that front.

By the way, the sponsorship deal Glasgow got with Highland Spring wasn't 1/4 of what Edinburgh got for their particular sponsorship deal, as you claim, clearly you need to go back and check your FACTS again. Your pulling marvellous figures from thin air!

Your hatred for the guy is simply clouding your judgement in your replies as is your lack of proper FACTS on the issue. If we're to have healthy debate at least do some research with the FACTS so it's not so all one sided.

I've taken the opportunity to answer your question. So which road does this take us down now?

Coming to blows and Indians? Interesting combination!

Your patronising effort of a posting just shows the mentality of your good self. Are you another who hides behind the guise of a computer screen on all matters Glasgow Rugby?

You seem to respond to my postings alot. Are you a stalker? I'd love to have my very own stalker! Wow! Isn't it exciting!

Never mind hb75, I suppose in some peoples eyes the awful clash of heads was probably non-existant also.
Although it's interesting that the fellow talks of always coming to blows despite that same fellow not having commented on the story up till then? Or did he/she/it?
Is someone playing little childish games in posting under more than one guise just for the sake of starting some some anymosity?

It remains a disgrace that Snowy, who had been a great servant for Glasgow, was let go and KL was signed, for what purpose?

Glenn wanted to ply his trade in France and decided himself to move from Glasgow. Players will always come in, players will always go out. What's the disgrace in that?

Glenn wanted to stay in glasgow but they offered him a fraction of his current wage so he left. kenny may have played 15 games. i saw just about all of them please tell me the ones he did anything wonderful?

the Edinburgh magners deal was done over 3 years.FACT. highland spring was a one year deal FACT for less a year than edinburgh FACT. highland spring walked away this year then came back on a reduced amount. FACT. ask former sponsorship man gordon hood.

Zzzzz. Your anti-Logan rant's getting a tad tedious and pretty predictable now.

WOW! You do quote some fact….sure Edinburgh sponsorship deal was 3 years, Glasgow was for 1 year! Congratulations...Gold star!

However, Still perplexed about the 1/4 of the deal your on about, the thin air figures of 1/4 you quote sadly is still FICTION.

Gordon Hood eh? Name dropping now too? Maybe you should go back and ask Gordon Hood's tasty info on more of these majestic figures.

Perhaps Gordon Hood shouldn't be quoting figures, whether fact or fiction, or behind the scenes stuff to all and sundray.

I'm sure Gordon Hood will enjoy his name plastered over the website which has him talking to everyone under the sun on monetary, sponsorship deals and behind the scenes goings on. If that's the case then let's just say I wouldn't like him working for my company or anyone else's company. Have you just walked yourself into a lawyer’s letter Marky boy? ;o)

As I said in a previous posting, it's overwhelmingly glaring to one and all that you hate Kenny Logan with a passion. I'd suggest trying to come to terms with it mate.

He's gone, he's no longer with Glasgow Warriors. Is that what's wrong child? Nowhere to vent your fury and anger over the guy now eh? Nevermind I'm sure you can join up with the Anti-Bulloch brigade and become stronger in venting that bile and fury.

Come on Mr Hood. Perhaps you would like to furnish us all with those facts and figures Marky boy's quoting on here.

I think you'll find i don't have a problem kenny logan. He did an ok job for scotland. probably got 30 caps more than he should of but not going to hold it against him. I have a problem with Glasgow signing past it players, much in the same light that other people have a problem with 33 year old australians who can't play for Scotland getting contracts instead of local talent.

You defend his below par performances for glasgow with the fact he got a shirt sponsor. Thats like defending Matt williams by saying he could play the piano. I would have preferred Glasgow to have increased the bums on seats by signing a good Scottish player Say getting Jason White back or get a world class foreigner. I don't think kenny has any grounds to comment on the state of Glasgow rugby as he did nothing to improve the state of it during his time here.

You have a huge problem with the sru and blame them for all Glasgows problems and yet defend the majority of the things they do on these very pages make up your mind.

Mark. You challenged and slighted the sponsorship deal. I answered you as clearly as I could. Simple as that.

Yes, I do blame the SRU for a helluva lot of problems, not just with Glasgow Warriors by the way, but with the way Scottish rugby is run from the roots to the branches. Seeing as this is a Glasgow Warriors website however, I'm highlighting the SRUs failures in particular with Glasgow Warriors. I wouldn't go onto a farming website for example and start talking about London docklands would I?

I’ve explained my reasoning on my postings both on here and on the forum contained on the site. I'll defend what I say with the facts. I know Kenny Logan wasn't on the vast amounts of cash that the media reported him to be on at his time in Glasgow. I know he did a lot behind the scenes that no-one has known about publicly. However, I'll keep monetary involvement to myself because it's simply no-one else's business what a player gets paid. If your being told facts and figures whether reality or false by Gordon Hood then you make sure Gordon Hood can come onto this site and furnish us all with those facts and figures. However, I suspect that Gordon Hood would not repeat things on a public forum he's said previously. So it was a bit silly to get Gordon Hood involved in it all.

Your naming players you'd like to see back at Glasgow. Well yeah, Jason White would be a great catch to resign, I don't think in the current climate that we're going to see players like Jason White head back North until there’s guarantees by the SRU of important areas like having a decent playing contract system in place, serious player injury plans being looked at, a guarantee of full-time rugby and a host of other items which the SRU need looked at and sorted out.

If your looking at signing young Scottish based players rather than 33 year old foreigners and the like then I agree with you. I’ve said so myself in the forum on many an occasion. The SRUs apprentice scheme was a shambles from day one. They were advised not to use it but they went ahead with it.

On bringing young Scottish talent on to the pro sides the left hand's saying one thing, the right hand saying another. How many young Scottish players have we seen over the past few years not playing pro rugby in Scotland? I can name a good few at my own club and there's plenty more throughout the land too. They aren't getting the chance to develop and play pro rugby in a pro atmosphere because of SRU mishandling of various issues.

Bums on seats, young players being signed, players leaving for pastures new, money coming into the game. It's all part of a never ending circle.

Dave, I've tried to argue my case, and not all about the "woo he got us a sponsorship deal" attitude but it only takes one party to start the name calling in the thing because they don't have relevant facts to produce, which we've witnessed above previously, to ruin a healthy debate for many.

Long rant over, back to non-computer reality.

Sorry Higland Brave it does matter what players are being paid when the rest of the sport has to suffer to allow this to happen--does the sport get value for money or could this money be better spent

We have lazy journalism saying player x is on high wages when player x isn't. Then joe public says "that's disgraceful" when it's not the case.

Saying that though, when I get on the train I don't go up to the driver and ask him what he's being paid, when I pay for my coffee in the morning I don't ask the woman behind the counter what she's being paid, when I go for a pint or two at the weekend I don't ask the bar staff what they are earning.

Anyway, as a matter of interest Hugh what's the payment plan at the Hawks? ;o)

I don't think you should turn this into some petty squabble or bring the names of former employee's into it. Whatever the facts of figures maybe kenny has his knockers and supporters on this site. i don't think we are in a position as supporters to judge him on his activities off the field without the figures which i doubt we are going to get off anyone. so pointless asking us to go ask Gorden Hood. Mark. We can judge him on his playing for glasgow as thats the bit i saw. i'd say he did ok but as a supporter he wouldn't have been my dream signing. much like the cardiff people will be saying about lomu!

I've got a sore head tonight - must be Kenny Logan's fault as well.

I was doubtful about his return to Warriors but what we got was total professionalism and commitment, and on-field leadership. If the rest of the squad had or now showed all these to the same level or anywhere near it our esults would be very different.

Dont worry lads you can all catch up with Kenny next week when he returns to Glasgow with the "Healthy Heart Campaign"