February 10, 2008

Nightmare goes on for Scotland

Posted by Editor on February 10, 2008 10:59 AM | 12 comments | Print | E-mail author

Shane Williams controversial score
Scotland's Six Nations no-show continued as they slumped to a 30-15 defeat to Wales.

Five penalties from Chris Paterson kept his team within touching distance going into the last quarter. However, Scotland's failure to create any significant try-scoring chances meant Wales were always in control at the Millenium Stadium.

The Scots conceded three tries - including a controversial score from Shane Williams.

Scotland coach Frank Hadden blames a failure to perform the basics for Scotland's woes.

"Ball in hand we were just awful," Hadden told BBC Sport. "We were getting turned over too often.

"The first thing we need to do is improve our set-piece and then hold onto the ball, we are struggling."

Hadden admitted his side have to make significant improvements in the fortnight before their trip to Croke Park to face Ireland on 23 February.

"At the moment we are not getting started, (we have) no platform to launch attacking strategies," said Hadden.

"The players have to take responsibility and will have to front up against Ireland in Dublin.

"They are aware of what we are trying to do but it's not coming off."

A more damning appraisal of Scotland's performance came from Wales coach Warren Gatland. He said: "They made it pretty easy for us. They were just picking and going off the rucks and never threw the ball wide and never threatened us. They never put us under any pressure at all."

Asked if he thought Scotland were harshly treated by the television match official (TMO), Carlo DaMasco, who incorrectly awarded Wales their third try Gatland responded with a remark that seemed to speak volumes about his thoughts on how Scotland's performance. "To be honest, I don't really feel sorry for Scotland."

Comments
Posted by sunday5 on February 10, 2008 02:47 PM | Reply to this comment

Watching Scotland lose at games has never been so boring as this. They were embarrassing. One dimensional, dull, pointless rugby. Needless to say Wales deserved it. I'm getting so sick of reading or hearing players and coaches bleating on about luck and unfortunate ball bounces. The truth of the matter is that the team seem to have gone to the gym a few times and are now swaggering around with a vastly inflated, undeserved sense of accomplishment. They need to collectively grow a pair and just bloody RUN at people.

If it goes on like this, we'll be hammered in Dublin and beaten in Rome. The only chink of light might be the possability of the team pulling their finger out or getting a slight sense of occasion against England but I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by jm on February 10, 2008 06:23 PM | Reply to this comment

Perhaps you could coach the team just for a change. Or even pull on a shirt and play yourself.

Posted by sunday5 on February 10, 2008 06:35 PM | Reply to this comment

So I'm wrong then? I take it you've been vastly entertained by our 6N so far? You can see us turning it all around and ending in a respectable possition?

Do you actually think the team is playing well or even remotley up to standard?

I watched the Italy game today and they will eat us alive in Rome unless something changes, I don't need to be Frank Hadden or Jason White to see that but thanks for your suggestion son.

Posted by jm on February 10, 2008 06:51 PM | Reply to this comment

The truth of the matter is that the team seem to have gone to the gym a few times and are now swaggering around with a vastly inflated, undeserved sense of accomplishment. They need to collectively grow a pair and just bloody RUN at people.

This sort of comment is redundant and only throws a veil of conceitedness around what could be positive criticism - not to mention that it simply isn't true. In fact, to write an article's worth of comments, speculating as to the core problems within the Scotland squad, doesn't make Glasgow or Scotland stronger than other teams. We all need a bit of confidence.

Well played in Wales guys. Scoreline didn't reflect the game.

Posted by sunday5 on February 11, 2008 09:12 AM | Reply to this comment

"Well played in Wales guys. Scoreline didn't reflect the game."

You're not serious are you? We offered absolutley nothing in attack, we could have played all night long like that and still not scored a try. I'm all for focusing on positive's but not when there simply aren't any. We've scored one try in five international matches. We are looking at a third wooden spoon and second whitewash in 3 tournaments. The team did not play well. It's not good enough. The scoreline could have been a lot worse if anything.

It's this kind of ridiculous naivety that everything will be all right that allows our national side to fall short, could you imagine the All Blacks, England or even wales playing like this and then getting a pat on the back and a "well played guys"? I only hope the team and coaches can see that they didn't play well and that the scoreline did infact reflect the game, make changes and at least save a little face.

Posted by jenni b on February 11, 2008 12:52 PM | Reply to this comment

Whilst I would agree that the performance on Saturday was not as solid as it could have been, I somehow don't think our players set out to disappoint intentionally! Seems to me that they need better support and direction from their coaches, and to stay calm on the field and believe in their abilities. I don't think anyone could heap more blame on them than many of them they will have done on themselves after Saturday. Anyone pathetic enough to boo the team as they got on the bus after the match should be ashamed of themselves - I can't imagine they were not already aware that they had disappointed their supporters and to publicly kick them while they were down is pretty low.

Posted by sunday5 on February 11, 2008 02:32 PM | Reply to this comment

I hadn't heard that "supporters" had boo'd the team. That is disgraceful. I've also been thinking about JM's comments on positives and perhaps I was a little harsh on the team. We did defend very well at times and our forwards have consistantly stood up and played well but there is something going wrong and it simply has to change.

Posted by The Briar on February 10, 2008 09:03 PM | Reply to this comment

I watched Italy play last night and there is no reason why Scotland can not beat them, and if they change a few things they could beat England and Ireland. Instead of stop/start rugby from the back of the ruck they need more options off Parks. If you watch the game I think there may have been only a couple of times they went to Parks when he had options arond him, and what happened. They went through gaps. I dont know whether Frank had a game plan of pick and goes but it does not work because defensive work is too good these days around the breakdown. Especially when you wait and give a team time to reset. Watch teams that score tries and you wont see that stop/start stuff it is all quick clean phases with options for your fly half to hit. Anyway boys, Although there is a lot of work it is acheivable. Good Luck for the rest of the tournament.

Posted by Lancashire Lad on February 10, 2008 10:31 PM | Reply to this comment

Dan Parks can't win either way. If he passes the ball, it's generally spilled by the would-be receiver or there's a penalty against the Scots for a basic unforced error. If Dan tries to go it alone, and that comes unstuck he's criticised. A few weeks away undertaking difficult military training would toughen this side up both physically, and more importantly, mentally. It's done in other parts of the rugby world, why not here?

Posted by sunday5 on February 11, 2008 09:15 AM | Reply to this comment

Well said, I fully agree.

Posted by goose on February 11, 2008 03:41 PM | Reply to this comment

Problem 1: Parks too 1 dimensional-
Comments have been that Dan has been too one dimensional; not taking the ball going forward/releasing players at the gain line. I think that he has done a lot of kicking and that Scotland have looked very one dimensional, but not because of Parks. He's doing the best with what he's got. The ball coming back at ruck time is far too slow, the defense has time to organize, and with the slow ball, how can you expect to create options? Dan Parks is not the issue. We have go to secure quick ball if we're going to do anything.
Problem 2: It's a 22 man game-
This is apparently something that Hadden has forgotten. It seems he selects the starting 15, and anyone selected on the bench is there out of obligation just to fill a jersey, exhibited when Hadden, needing to chase the game, held off the substitutions until the last 10 mins. It's the definition of insanity; keep doing the same thing, expecting different results. What's more is that this instills a distinct lack of confidence in players, which is why they never appear to do anything with conviction, or back themselves.
There needs to be a change - in tactics, in execution, and in the mental confidence of the side.

Posted by jm on February 11, 2008 05:31 PM | Reply to this comment

Well said, I fully agree.

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